Why I Almost Quit Internet Marketing Last Year!


3 Main Takeaways:

1) Learn how to identify a blind copy and STOP buying these junk products!

Click here to read this blog post by Jason Fladlien on how to identify a potential junk product with blind copy

2) If you’re an affiliate, do NOT promote these junk products because it’s going to encourage these marketers to continue producing junk and it will HARM your reputation!

3) Lastly, if you’re a product creator or ever intend to create your own products in the IM niche, please do produce ONLY quality stuff. Although all those junk products with blind sales copies sell well, their REFUND rates are actually ABOVE 50%. However, high quality products like the ones we’ve been producing actually have LESS than 2% refund rates. So please, do NOT join the DARK side.

Check out some of our products which we’ve produced recently:

1) IM Riches Mastery

2) Mother & Father’s Day Amazon Profit Booster

3) Accelerated PLR Profits

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I would LOVE to hear your thoughts… Do you agree or disagree with what I said? And how can Patricia and I help you make a wiser buying decision or help you in any way? Please DO leave a comment below! :D

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  1. Tony Swaine
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin & Patricia, You are a breath of fresh air, i cannot agree more with everything you have said in the video, i practice all these ethics myself.

    Regards

    Tony

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  2. Kristen
    1350 days ago

    Thank you for not joining the dark side, Calvin and Patricia! I love your message and all your products.

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  3. Thomas
    1350 days ago

    Great video and advise. Love your products. And, thanks for the kind words about Japan in your email.

    Thomas Burke
    Tokyo, Japan

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Thomas,

    How is the situation over there?

    We pray that you and your family will be safe during this crisis!

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  4. PROFITROCK Pro
    1350 days ago

    I could not agree with you more regarding trash programs of loopholes and one click software. I have always strived for quality products to promote or have made or I simply cannot use it. Therefore, If I don’t want it, I will not offer it to someone else. Am glad you didn’t give up Calvin, as I have followed you for awhile. You have been an impact on my knowledge over the years. It is just recently I publicized being involved with your blog and started posting comments. I still do not post often enough. Never-the-less, Thanks for staying! I only hope I someday make the same impact on others.

    Profitrock

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    Calvin Reply:

    @PROFITROCK Pro, thanks for your comment! I’m sure you’ll make a huge impact soon! :)

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  5. Abdur
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin thankyou for sharing this video with us. You are 100% correct about so many crap product launch on the internet these days all they are promoting are silly push putton software that they claim will make you a millionaire over night nonsense.The truth is nothing comes easy you really have to work at it and follow a proven system by reputable marketers like Calvin and few other great genuine marketers out there whom provides real value.

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  6. Yew Heng
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    I agreed with you. Many internet marketers are dishing out junk products and they create such an impressive prelaunch that everyone is bluff into buying them only to add more junk products to their existing digital dusk.

    Surprising, some established internet marketers are also promoting them. Maybe they are too busy with their own indulgence to take a second look into what they are going to promote. They promote simply because they are entered into a JV competition where they can win BIG prices.

    I understand how you feel about the IM niche. Anyway, this is the nature of this niche… selling people a dream… a possibility…. However, they should do good if they sell what they really used to help them make money and NOT pieced together some junks to sell online in the hope of getting some fast cash to finance their shinny objects.

    The way some internet marketers do business is this: Over promised but under delivered.

    To build a LONG term sustainable business, we need to Over promised and Over delivered.

    Yew Heng
    http://www.EmbraceInternetWealth.com

    PS: Getting a bit **HOT** when i discuss this topic….

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Yew Heng, hey you’re spot on about many established marketers who are promoting these products. I was honestly SHOCKED by many of those names as some were people whom I have held huge respect for over the years.

    Oh well… Let just hope this will finally stop one day…

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  7. JY
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin

    Thank you! I totally agree with your observations and experiences. It is really heartening to see marketers like you and Patricia whom really care and providing value with integrity! Keep in touch!

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  8. JD Reilly
    1350 days ago

    Calvin is right on in his warning about what is being sold under the internet marketing niche. In fact, there are outright scammers and you should do your “due diligence” before purchasing. If you desire, I can give you some to “watch out for” people lurking out there. I’ll be glad to share with you. Best of luck to all in your internet marketing ventures. Calvin and Patricia have always over delivered and I highly recommend them.

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    patricialin Reply:

    @JD Reilly,

    Thanks for leaving a comment and certainly, it’s good to be cautious about all these products and do some research before purchasing.

    Thanks for your vote of confidence and we aspire to keep overdelivering!

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  9. Geof
    1350 days ago

    Finally we have the new Luke Skywalker of IM helping us to fight all the Darth Vaders from the dark side. Strongly agree with you and really felt the same as in the quitting part. Not only marketers are crossing to the dark side, even ClickBank seems getting polluted on each day. Just look at the latest top hottest products in the IM niche then you’ll know what I mean.

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Geof, yup.. Clickbank really ought to have a more stringent approval process! this will make it a tad more difficult for those crap launches to take place.

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    Michael Wilson Reply:

    @Calvin,

    Based on the fact that Clickbank approves these type of products, I would venture to say that Clickbank is in on the deal. They encourage the behavior. How? Because Clickbank awards the biggest sellers and invites they to participate in special programs.

    The only thing that will stop these products is lack of sales.

    Thank you,
    Michael

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    spirituality Reply:

    @Michael Wilson,

    Clickbank has become much more corrupt and irresponsible as a vendor, and allows obvious and known scams into their network, as well as blatant false advertising, as long as it makes them money.

    Clickbank is going to have to be a lot more careful going forward, as there is much too much fraud in the network now that they will sooner or later have to take some responsibility for.

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  10. Jeff Pearson
    1350 days ago

    Calvin, this has needed saying for a long time by someone as respected as you. I urge everyone to look at Jasons post, it really is worth it. I’ve bought three of your products this year, and I’ve not been disappointed once.
    By the same token, I have returned two other products by “guru’s” (hate that phrase), which were terminally substandard.
    Trouble is? If they continue churning out rubbish, and I continue to ask for a refund, I could get targetted by CB as some sort of refund rogue.
    It’s a bad situation. Thanks for putting this post up. Best to Patricia.

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Jeff Pearson,

    Yup Jason’s post sums up pretty much what you need to know to raise the red flag. So again, we encourage everyone to check it out.

    I understand what you mean and well, one thing you can do is to look out for product reviews done up by other marketers about it before purchasing them. That should save you all the trouble of refunding. :) But of course I know that sometimes, these honest reviews sometimes, are not surfacing fast enough to protect others from buying them. *Sigh*

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    Shana Jahsinta Walters Reply:

    @patricialin,

    Sometimes you can’t even trust these product reviews. I know several times when I come across an internet marketing product that I am interested in purchasing, if I check out 20 reviews sites, I find the exact same review, word for word, across the board.

    All the best,
    Shana Jahsinta Walters.

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    Ashish Patel Reply:

    @Shana Jahsinta Walters,

    i agree with you. Some marketers provide reviews as tools to simply copy and paste on blogs, forums or anything. How can i trust them?

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  11. Gabriel
    1350 days ago

    Calvin,

    Just to let you know, you and your partner are one of the VERY FEW marketers I very highly respect and buy from without having to hold my breath. I love ALL the products I have bought from you. I just want to personally thank you. Please keep up the good work. Take care.

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Gabriel,

    It’s comments like yours that encourage us to churn out quality products, despite them being pale in comparison to those junk product launches.

    And we know that what matters is that we continue to deliver our utmost best to encourage a change in the industry at this moment.

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  12. Janet
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    Well said. These junk products, including the upsells, really give the IM industry a bad name.
    Glad you posted this. It’s about time someone did something about it.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Cheers
    Janet

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  13. Steve in Japan
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    Totally agree that the word needs to spread regarding all the crap that has been recently promoted. Looking to dive back into your products once the crisis here in Japan settle’s a bit. Only time will tell when that will be…

    Your encouragement from your email for Japan is greatly appreciated!!

    Best Regards,
    Steve

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Steve in Japan, certainly hope things will start to pick up real soon in Japan!

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    Ryan Reply:

    @Steve in Japan, I don’t know where about in Japan you are, but hope all goes back to normal for all in Japan. I have relative in Kobe, thank god they’re OK.

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Steve in Japan,

    We pray for your family’s safety and protection in Japan during this critical period. Tokyo’s one of the cities we had planned to visit this year and it’s a pity that we didn’t get to see it before the destruction.

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  14. Jeff
    1350 days ago

    Hey Love birds…

    I can really FEEL what you said and I thank you for having the integrity and courage to post this!

    It will be GREAT if there’s a trusted platform which we can refer to for advice before we buy any product.

    Anyway, thanks for everything…

    Jeff

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  15. MD
    1350 days ago

    Hi,

    I agree with you. I’ve lost thousands to garbage products when I first started in IM. Now I also make it a policy to never promote nothing that I haven’t bought and reviewed myself.

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  16. Ryan
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin & Patricia,

    Thanks for sharing another excellent post, I couldn’t agree with you more.
    You sort of develope a 6th sense for sniffing out these junk products after a while. It’ll always have huge outrageous headline how this software or whatever made $235,532.98 in 21days starting with no product, no web site and no list….something along that line. Usually has a hypie video to go along with it, and seems it’s always priced at $37. And when you start seeing similar stuff every 3 days, something smells fishy.

    Most of the time it’ll have an exit pop that offers you to buy it at $27. I realize getting part of a sale is better than no sale at all, but aren’t they de-valuing their own product?

    Glad you’re not a quitter and be here to guide us in the right direction.

    Cheers,
    Ryan

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Ryan,

    Glad you managed to come up with your own identifiers to help you identify such products! Well, they are technically NOT devaluing their products because it’s a junk product in the first place. They just want to make that sale by hook or by crook i guess.

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    Ryan Reply:

    @patricialin,
    Yeah, you’re right. You can’t devalue something that is not of value. They just have guts driven by greed to launch these products but not principle.

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  17. Linda
    1350 days ago

    Hey Calvin,

    Thanks for posting this video really. I definitely agree we should BOYCOTT all these rubbish launches and also unsubscribe from marketers who promote them.

    How about we compile a list of these marketers who have no regard for their subscribers?

    Anyone care to start?

    Linda

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    Stephen Reply:

    @Linda,

    Hmmmm…

    You could start with about 1/3 of the members of the Warrior Forum ;-) )

    I get about 1/3 of the mail I used to get every day because I started
    unsubscribing from marketers’ lists who promote this junk over and over.

    @Calvin, @Patricia…

    Thank you so much for “going public” with this foul trend. I agree completely
    with you folks!

    It’s about time.

    Thanks,
    Stephen

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  18. Thank you for your honesty and not selling junk. I came upon your blog through the warrior forum and I am glad I did. Cheers

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  19. Mitch
    1350 days ago

    Thanks for pointing this out Calvin. I have the exact same opinion about this, and as a matter of fact, I just received an email the other day from Omar Martin on this same topic. It is nice that you decided to speak out like this, however, once the FTC gets a grip on these scumbags, they will regret everything that they have done.

    Here in, lies the problem. How much damage are they going to cause for people that have nothing to hide? The government here in the US is already trying to stick their nose into everything us marketers do, and THESE SCUMBAGS are going to be the cause of more and more restrictions on all, as we move into the future.

    Thanks again for being one of the honest ones!

    Respectfully,
    Mitch.

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Mitch, Yes Mitch… These scumbags are definitely harming the entire industry on the whole. Which is why it is vital that all the others have to wake up and stop supporting these crap.

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  20. Martin K Pe'a
    1350 days ago

    well shared, Calvin…
    always “deliver as promised” or get out of business…

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  21. Scally
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin
    Thats a great post, I spend alot of my time on the internet looking at the salespages from these product launches but didn’t know about the blind sales tecnicque. It’s great to see you spreading the message and warning unsuspecting marketers about how they are being scammed.
    Thanks for standing up to the big guys.
    Cheers Scally

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  22. Jeremy Gislason
    1350 days ago

    Good video Calvin!

    Nice to see more people speaking out about this now this year.

    Too bad so many people fall into these tricks but what is worse is all the marketers who continue to promote this B.S.

    Facebook the FTC and others are now playing catch up with all these fraudsters, interesting to see this from the FTC recently: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/03/emptypromises.shtm

    I’ve personally cut a lot of business ties the last year with anyone backing those kind of decietful products.

    I urge others to do the same and for people just coming online, never ever buy into that kind of hype

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Jeremy Gislason, Hey man.. Really nice to see you here. :)

    I highly applaud your decision to cut those business ties.. I know how it feels. It’s really saddening to see marketers whom I had so much respect for in the past continue to promote these B.S…

    And I’m really glad to see two of my top role models standing firm on this issue!

    Guys, if you’re looking for a great role model in the IM industry, I highly recommend Jeremy & Simon! :D

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    Jane Reply:

    @Calvin, I get tons of promotions from Jeremy & Simon promoting all the latest JV products to their lists. Where you not just saying we should not be listening to all this crap?

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Jane, First up, there’s really nothing wrong about promoting JV products as long as the product does deliver what it says and does not belong to the category of blind copy style of products.

    And I do believe Jeremy & Simon are pretty stringent about the quality of products which they promote. I know that as I’m on their list as well.

    We will still continue to promote affiliate products as well, provided they are high quality.

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Jeremy Gislason,

    I’ve heard so many great things about you and Simon Hodgkinson throughout Calvin’s marketing journey. :)

    Great to see you here to put your stand on this matter too!

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  23. Michael Wilson
    1350 days ago

    I always like to checkout a product launch by typing in a special search in google.

    1) find out the actual domain name of the product.
    2) type the following in a google search:

    Site:insertdomain.com

    3) poke through the search results to find out more about the product and upsells. You’ll usually find the JV page also. Sometimes you’ll discover they don’t even care to secure the members area. At least this way you can preview the product before buying.

    Hope this is helpful,
    Thanks
    Mike

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    Stephen Reply:

    @Michael Wilson,

    That is indeed helpful! Thank you :-)

    Stephen

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  24. Alan
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin & Patricia,

    Thank you for making a stand on this issue. It gives us struggling marketers a boost to konw that ther really are still some honest people doing well in IM. I hope you will encourage more successful marketers to join you in this.

    The thing is, I’ve been saying the same thing for many months now and have expressed my views/concerns to an IM friend of mine on several occasions. I hope you will indulge me with some extracts from these emails from last year.

    “…the big boys are really getting bad. There are some that are still ok but I’m getting the same shit from Txxxxxx Kxxxxx, Mxxx Bxxxx, Mxxx Fxxxxxx, Rxxxxxx Bxxxxxx and etc. These guys I thought were straight down the line, but they are all sending out the same crap, often just a copy and paste email. They are all one below the other in my inbox with the same subject and no doubt the same content. I just don’t know what’s going on in this business any more…”

    “Lots of launches this last couple of weeks. The ones I thought would be good also had good prce tags on them and the cheapies were mostly crap. Had a look at a few but kept my credit card in my pocket for a change. All these easy ways to get traffic are just crap, rehashed submitters or some such that only work if you are lucky…”

    “…there are a lot of the big gurus who must be really feeling the pinch the way they are peddling every bit of crap that comes their way. I haven’t ever seen so many launches as there has been this year. Just too many launches, everyone is sick of the same old stuff being relaunched over and over again.”

    “…found a big green button the other day. Well it was on a sales page anyway. Didn’t try to push it as the great new, never before seen on the internet system was such a lot of bullshit I didn’t look too hard. I saw a video the other day which started off canning all these hype and bullshit sales letters we’ve been getting lately that promise riches overnight – no such thing etc. Half the video was about that and then he started on about his new never before seen software and training that would make you rich overnight. I couldn’t believe they would think we are that stupid, but people must be because they still buy the…”

    What can you do except to do your homework first. If it sounds interesting, I go to the Warrior Forum and look at the reviews. You soon find out what’s good and what’s not, and most of it has been ‘not’ this past year.

    I hope things improve in this business, with more marketers like you standing up and being counted will certainly help.

    Thanks once again.

    Alan

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Alan,

    Thanks for sharing! And yes, the Warrior Forum is a strong community that we actively participate in as well and you can be sure to get a lot of honest reviews of these products in no time.

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    spirituality Reply:

    @patricialin,

    I totally disagree about the Warrior Forum. It used to be great, where you could get objective information about new product launches. Now it is just a closed “old boys’ club” where everyone says how great everyone else is. I wrote a comment critical of a new release and had it removed for no reason.

    If I had revealed 1 or 2 aspects of the program that I should not have, they could have just X’d those parts out and left the main critical review. But they couldn’t even do that. They threw the baby out with the bathwater.

    They are almost completely biased now towards selling and profits, and much farther removed from objective reporting.

    The Warrior Forum is becoming more corrupt and commercial, thought you can still get some good deals there through their WSO program.

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  25. Mike
    1350 days ago

    What you say used to be called commonsense. The problem is that it now goes by the name of rare sense. I’ve bought and refunded a few of these recently, because I don’t like having an uninformed opinion – total garbage.

    The problem with the FTC is that they have few teeth – especially outside the US. Still, companies like ClickBank continue to make it easy for customers to exercise buyer remorse, so natural market forces will kill these guys off anyway. Let hope so…

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  26. Jan
    1350 days ago

    Well said Calvin, keep up the great work.

    Everyone needs to take action
    1. dont buy this crap
    2. if you do buy it, get it refunded
    3. unsubscribe from every mailing list which promotes this rubbish
    4. don’t promote products unless you know exactly what you are promoting

    There are no magic buttons to millions, however you choose to make money online it will require some work and effort on your part.

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Jan,

    Thanks for sharing those action steps! It certainly makes it easier to filter out all this junk!

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  27. Pierre Gelinas
    1350 days ago

    Calvin,
    You are entirely correct about all the junk crap products out there. I get lots of those emails and now do not even watch the videos to the end,because…they’re all the same… B.S.
    I go one step further: I check Warriorforum.com and read the comments and reviews about all these so-called auto pushbutton money making magic softwares . I saved lots of money that way…by not buying! Am glad to hear your message today. I totally agree with you. Keep up the great work.
    Pierre

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  28. Tom
    1350 days ago

    First, it was 13 click products; then 12 click products; then 7 click products; then 6 click products; then 4 click products; and finally, recently, I was emailed the one click product, which would bring me hundreds of thousands every month. I am waiting for the no click product, where you just cut a fart and hundreds of thousands will start rolling in. This industry is so bad it makes the used car industry look good. Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a part of it. The UK seems to be particularly guilty of ridiculous sales pages, although the US has its fair share too. Clickbank should terminate for life any guy that turns out a product where there is over 50% refunds. Thanks, Calvin, for bringing all this out.

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    John Reply:

    @Tom,

    Ha ha, that reminds me of the scene in Something About Mary when Ted picks up the hitchhiker and the hitchhiker tells him about his business idea. “You ever hear of Eight-Minute Abs?…..my idea’s gonna blow them outta the water. Get this: Seven-Minute Abs.”

    Ted replies “Huh. That sounds great. Unless someone else comes out with Six-Minute Abs.”

    Lol

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  29. Bill Downing
    1350 days ago

    I completely agree with you.
    The hard part for most people is they are attracted to the flame like a moth. Poof they get burned and if they get burned badly enough they quit or spread their experiences with all their friends.
    I have had several bad experiences myself and have finally concluded that I will never buy so and so’s products ever again and will think twice about buying a product from someone that promotes those other peoples products too.
    Thanks for sharing your story.

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  30. Chrissy
    1350 days ago

    What a great video Calvin and total truth. I recently watched a video on Vimeo by SEO Hacker which basically pulled apart SE Sniper and revealed why it doesn’t work. It was quite technical but the guy himself is a coder and explained in detail why the product is a total scam.

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  31. Joan
    1350 days ago

    Dear Calvin:

    You are a fantastic speaker. You can put a point across faster than any other native English speaker. Far more convincing and you definitely have that American charisma to go with it! I love listening to you and I admire everyone of your presentations. As for internet marketing today, who knows what’s in store for marketers life myself and millions of others as well.

    The bottom line for us “little people” is who can we realistically trust? Ha! That is the big question. We are the target audience. Hungry, frothing at the mouth… Millions of marketers are asking for our trust. Trying to prove their worth with fabulous copy, enticing videos and endless webinars. So who do we trust? THAT IS THE QUESTION!

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Joan, hey Joan.. Thanks, that’s really sweet of you! haha.. It might not be obvious, but it does take quite abit of courage for an Asian guy like me to record these videos knowing that more than 60% of my audience are Westerners and could be scrutinizing my English. But I’m glad I was still able to put my message across.

    I get what you mean… Seriously, I don’t even know myself who can I trust. As mentioned, some marketers whom I’ve looked up to over these years are actually one of the biggest promoters of these junk products now.

    It is frustrating I know… But we just need to hope and pray that all these nonsense will stop and these frauds will be clamped down.

    It’s actually easy to compile a list of these unscrupulous marketers… Just look at the JV leaderboard of these launches and you’ll know who are the ones on the “dark side”. You’ll notice that they are pretty much the same gang…

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  32. John Michael Christian
    1350 days ago

    Great video Calvin. Joel Comm and a number of others have been speaking out about the fraud and hype in the IM niche lately and it’s wonderful to see. Unfortunately I think it’s mostly newbies who get suckered in by the hype, and that makes it all the more difficult for them to believe they can actually succeed online.

    You’re right, people need to realize that there are no instant, overnight solutions. A lot of newbies have the mistaken idea (because so many marketers sell them a line of BS) that you don’t have to work at an internet business.. but nothing could be further from the truth. Just like any business, you have to work at it if you’re going to succeed.

    Hopefully with you and other folks bringing this to everyone’s attention people will wise up and quit buying from the snake oil (junk product) people and learn to recognize that they only need to buy one or two programs that will give them a complete, step by step system to follow and then DO IT.
    Cheers
    John Michael Christian

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    Calvin Reply:

    @John Michael Christian, thanks John.. Yup so far I’ve seen a couple of others who’ve spoken up like Jason Fladlien, Joel Comm, Mike Flisaime, Jeremy Gislason, Soren & Cindy, Omar Martin. I’m sure there are many others out there… And I highly encourage EVERYONE, regardless of how much influence you have in this industry to speak up.. :)

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  33. karen
    1350 days ago

    Good on you Calvin. I am disgusted that there is this ‘super afiliate’ still promoting these shits. I just got 3 the other day from him lately. The latest one he was promoting was one with an elderly guy, seeming innocent enough, claiming that he picked up a dvd in a bar, carelessly dropped by some stupid internet marketer who happened to be in town promoting his shit, containing the push button software that could make us a lot money. I was just curious about what he was about to share only because he had an Aussie accent – a local guy you know.

    As it tuned out, behind the scene sure enough were the faceless Andrew X and Steven lee Jones!!! Gasped and horrified, I tell you what mate, I ran the other way as quickly as I could.

    As for the aussie elderly guy, maybe hired by these 2 faceless men to appear on screen because they never want to reveal their themselves. I now know why he said the dvd was picked up in a bar. What he meant was the dvd fell from the back of a truck.

    Keep on doing the great stuff Calvin.

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  34. Allen Walker
    1350 days ago

    Thanks a lot for sharing, and your honesty in this area. :)

    Definitely, do some proper research and at least use the product yourself before you attempt to even promote it. Make sure you only produce good products, or your reputation will go down the drain.

    An advice that I give to my subscribers is to look around and compare products on the same topic before buying. Don’t jump into things too easily.

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    Stephen Reply:

    @Allen Walker,

    Internet marketers often present a conundrum to prospective buyers. It’s a conflict between the concepts of making intelligent, informed buying decisions and being confronted with “scarcity and urgency” selling tactics.

    I look at it this way: When everything is urgent, nothing is urgent. And if it’s so “scarce,” why are you/they running an affiliate program?

    I actually came across a sales page a month or two ago that said only 14 copies would ever be sold. There were two scripts running on the page. One counted down the number of copies left, and the other counted up the number of people viewing the page. I refreshed the page numerous times and the countdown/countup scripts kept resetting (of course).

    I think a whole lot of internet marketing these days has degenerated into “who has the best gimmick makes the most money.” The industry is getting all too transparent.

    I wrote a blog comment a few years ago saying that I believed the “ideal target audience” of internet marketers were the newbies, the financially desperate, and the terminally stupid.

    It’s looking more and more like I won’t need to change my thinking anytime soon :-)

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  35. "Digital" Don Hill
    1350 days ago

    I’m in total agreement with you, Calvin!

    It has been said that there is honor among thieves, but I see no honor at all amongst these thieves. I know you grew up in a culture where one’s honor is highly valued and should never be compromised.

    I long ago adopted the same policy that you do, and I never promote anything I haven’t bought or used myself (I’ve sometimes received complimentary copies for review) and have had a chance to actually verify that it delivers what is promised.

    After all, how can you ever expect to convince anybody to buy something if you don’t think it’s worth buying for yourself? (Unless you’re really good at LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH!)

    Then there’s all the “buzzwords” (sorry for that little play on “words”) like “autopilot,” “push-button,” “loophole,” “short-cut,” and “done FOR you.” If everything is so easy, and you don’t actually have to do anything to receive those five-figure checks, then what in the world do they even need YOU for anyway? Why would they invite YOU – a total STRANGER – to “share the wealth?”

    (Answer: YOU have a credit card or debit card – with an available balance!)

    Not only should we boycott the so-called “marketers” who are peddling such junk, but we also need to raise awareness in the industry as a whole – just as you’re doing here on this blog, as well as Jason on his. Quite a few other REAL marketers that I have come to trust are also beginning to point out the same thing.

    I would be careful about naming names, as some of them have deep pockets and some pretty good attorneys just a phone call away – who could make your life pretty miserable even if everything you claim about them is true. You can be sure they won’t let you attack their “cash cow” or the goose that keeps laying golden eggs for them.

    And then there are some of the “big guns” who seem to be surprisingly silent on the subject, or they react with stuff like “Grow up! It’s BUSINESS! Get used to it or get OUT!”

    At which time they make it onto MY “blacklist.”

    Perhaps the time has come for all of us to come together and form some type of professional association or trade organization that would let people know by its “seal of approval” that the product and/or the marketer presenting it are actually delivering real VALUE to their customers and aren’t just ripping them off.

    Third-party validation from a reputable source with no material interest in the product or service would carry a lot of weight with the consumers of our products, and could serve to reduce the proliferation of snake-oil salesmen and carnival barkers.

    One thing is certain – if we don’t step up and police our own, some government agency will do it, and you can be sure that if things get that far, it’s not going to be very pleasant for EVERYONE involved – including those of us who have consistently doing everything “right.”

    Here in the US, government regulators often operate under the premise that you’re GUILTY until you’ve proven yourself INNOCENT, placing more burden on legitimate business owners to prove compliance, while the scumbags just don’t care about the rules, and certainly won’t even bother following them.

    This comment is already much too long and so I’ll stop now. This subject really strikes a nerve with me because I’ve never seen things get so bad in the 7+ years I’ve been selling online!

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    patricialin Reply:

    @”Digital” Don Hill,

    Thanks for sharing! It’s not too long at all because you brought up a lot of valid points and I totally agree with them.

    Unfortunately at the moment, there’s no third party source available to come against these junk product creators but we can definitely build up a new generation of marketers who stand up firm against these unscrupulous people.

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    Jim Parsons Reply:

    @”Digital” Don Hill,
    I was going to add an insert identical to this one, when I reached the end of this set of reviews. Don – you said it first.

    I finally reached the point that I automatically deleted any emails connected with the Warrior forum, and opted out of all lists where the promos came more than twice a week.

    Next I opted out of all lists where the seller used the shotgun approach – tossing out up to a dozen products and expecting me to read through all of that trash and maybe bite on one.

    Then I replied to all emails from sellers I respect and told them not to send me any more of this sort of trash, or I would opt out for good. I specifically told them to only send me Warrior offers that they had personally reviewed and that would not shred their personal reputations – if I bought the product.

    I used to get upwards of 70 or so emails every day. Today I got 6. I didn’t buy any of these offerings today, maybe tomorrow. I did, however, reclaim a couple of hours of my valuable time.

    The pitches became more and more frantic over time. It was obvious that promoting junk and running with the money was finally producing a marked negative impact on their bottom lines. Then came phase 2.

    A stream of free goodies. A stream of so called $1,000.00 products. All I had to do was sign on for another happy ride on another list. These were the really outrageous huge pitches and webinars selling very expensive, usually software programs, claiming to produce the mansions and cadillacs. Programs that were so secret that the gurus of the gurus were threatening to send a hit man out to eliminate the salesman if they found out about him doing this. Yet, here he was – right on the small screen with his big face clearly displayed and his location clearly disclosed to the world – after all he had to be paid. Please, guys, there is a difference between dumb and just plain stupid.

    More opt – outs from more lists.

    Anyhow, nearly back on track now and only dealing with a very small number of sellers, mainly because I am moving away from the IM niche more and more. There are people out there who need good material about other subject than how to give your boss the finger and fly off to the moon on the strength of internet selling.

    It is coming together. It is gratifying to see that so many other people are still committed to industry, honesty, and integrity. Well done, all.

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  36. Amirol
    1350 days ago

    Great sharing Calvin.

    I totally agree with you that there are a lot of “junk” products which being promoted and created by the “top IM”. Most of them really take advantage on the new comers (aka newbies); selling those products just to get “money” without providing any real and quality value.

    It is great to have someone like you which concern about this scenario and share it with all of us.

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  37. mike
    1350 days ago

    Nice video…. But the best part was hearing you say “Bullshit”!!! ROFLMAO!!

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  38. Buzz Hill
    1350 days ago

    You are 100% correct, these push button make $10,000 in a week a just BS.
    I just bought one the other day, supposely new software to send articles, amazing almost have the websites in the software are incorrect, so I requested my refund. These guys are burning their leads and it will come back to kill them. I note the joker and will never promote or buy their crap again. Keep up the honest good work.

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  39. Elmar
    1350 days ago

    Hi, Calvin

    you are so right. There is so much junk software out there. I bought a lot of that stuff too until I found your great quality products! Please stay on this track.

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  40. Maartin
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    Absolutely SPOT ON!

    Wherever we can spread the word to warn people, we should do so. Eventually these guys will burn themselves. I have read else ware that some of these $37 / $47 marketers have a refund rate in excess of 50% – which means they lose money – which is a good thing.

    Slowly but surely the market will identify the good and honest marketers who in the long term will survive and thrive.

    I currently have a list of 5 IM marketers whom I really trust and will support. They have proven to me that they are there to help (and in the process make money, which is 100% fine).

    Then there’s an extensive list of marketers whom I stay away from, some who are BIG shots who boasts with $1m launches.

    I’d rather stick to those who prove to help, not to suck you dry!

    Thanks for your valuable video.

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    Calvin Reply:

    @Maartin, thanks…Actually you know what’s the shocking & saddening thing.. Although these products get a 50% refund rate, they do not actually lose money.

    Bcos if the product is utter junk, the other 50% that they earn is a GAIN instead of a loss. And honestly, that’s the mindset of those marketers who put out these crap products. They see it as a 50% gain from nothing instead of a 50% loss! :(

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    Lester Lim Reply:

    @Calvin,

    They are also banking on some other innocent fellows who are not sure about the clickbank refund process, or some who simply blame it on their luck and move on. Perhaps, their refund rate could be even higher for all we know!

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  41. Lester Lim
    1350 days ago

    Hi Guys

    I was an ex-pimp who used to be loitering around Geylang (in Singapore) with my girls to seek a living. Ever since I discovered a software with a good friend of mine, I have turned my fortunes around and earned $545,698.23 in just 2 months. Get on board now and i will tell you how you can earn this amount without even needing a click!

    Okay that was a super outrageous and ridiculous example but I think you guys got the idea. Like that Calvin has mentioned, there have been so many product launches recently about one-click, two-click softwares that can bring in fortunes for you without needing to do much. Seriously, those sales copies totally pissed me off. Whenever I noticed a blind copy, I will just “switch off” right away, because of the ‘scammy nature”.

    To be fair, some products could really be very good site builders, link builders, etc that can help to reduce your workload significantly. But to suggest just by using them you can earn that much of an income is totally misleading and scamming the hell out of their buyers. Unfortunately, this trend will still continue as long as there are still people looking for push button solutions (kind of like human nature) and these marketers know this fact exactly.

    Like Calvin, I lost respect for the marketers who promote these products with the swipe files provided and leave their list to be sucked into the misfortune. Some even have the guts to say they can’t afford to not promote because they are good JV partners and are bringing him money (as told by some WF members). Is that particular marketer’s list worth your while subscribing to?

    Personally, i am in midst of setting up my personal site/blog to share my IM experience with fellow marketers, and is also launching a product on Twitter marketing in WF in the coming weeks. I know for sure the importance of providing good value for your buyers or your list, and will never ever promote anything to them without reviewing them myself first. This is one principle which i can totally relate to Calvin.

    As Internet marketers, it’s a fact that we are in to earn money, but at least I wish to earn money ethically so that i will be able to sleep soundly at night, knowing that I have provided tremendous value to my list and buyers alike.

    P.S. Sidenote: Ever heard of Get FB Ads Free? This program has nothing to do with getting your ads free. Instead it is a major twist of facts by the product creator who is pretty well known in the IM niche. Great disappointment and amusement.

    Cheers,
    Lester

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    Ryan Reply:

    @Lester Lim,
    I was an ex-pimp who used to be loitering around Geylang (in Singapore)…..LOL, that’s funny. But that’s not too far from most of the stories in these copies. Some of them sure do hook you right in.
    And yes, I too have lost respect for some of the marketers who I used to think were worthwhile.

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    Shana Jahsinta Walters Reply:

    @Lester Lim,

    Go for it Lester. I will be happy to read about your Internet marketing experiences.

    All the best,
    Shana Jahsinta Walters.

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  42. jaycee
    1350 days ago

    Hi there Calvin & Patricia, Could not agree more with “Digital” Don Hill, as we really do need some way where the wary buyer could go to a private site and get recommendations about whether product “a! or “b” were of any value or merely more lining to some fat guru’s deep pockets. Come up with that site and you could make a really big difference to how much money is wasted or saved. Third party recommendation will go so much further to help you make a correct buying decision as opposed to blowing yet more dough. We know that some of these guru’s spend a great deal of money having long copy created that will make their product sound like mannah from above. But they are gifted in knowing which buttons to press in order to really make their products believable. When will we, the buyers find some one to create the site where we can merely input which products we have had to claim back refunds because they failed to live up to the glib promises in the copy? Too often the copy is the most creative part as compared to the actual product itself. Best regards, John.

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  43. Philip
    1350 days ago

    Hi Calvin,
    Thanks for your video. It’s great to hear someone speak out about those bad and misleading products. I have not as yet launched a product of my own as I want to be able to teach others something of real value, and where I have been successful myself. Personally I don’t know how these people can sleep at night knowingly selling stuff that does not work. I also feel it’s about time that marketers explain what their products will do, if they are software, or what you will learn, if it is a training course. After all if you decided to attend offline college training you would receive a prospectus outlining the course details. I know most ‘decent’ marketers do this and hold or attend webinars explaining their product, but I think this should be a requirement for all these sales letters to explain the product properly even if this information was towards the lower section of the letter.

    Keep up the good work and I’m glad to hear you didn’t quit IM.
    All the best.
    Philip

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    Shana Jahsinta Walters Reply:

    @Philip,

    I feel the exact same way that you do. I don’t want to create a crappy product to sell to anyone. I rather have 100 people buying my product and implementing the strategies that I am teaching and be pleased with the results that they are getting. Than to sell 100, 000 copies and have 99% of the people who buy it, ask for a refund.

    All the best,
    Shana Jahsinta Walters.

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  44. Lester Lim
    1349 days ago

    Just to add on to my previous post..

    We need more marketers like Calvin and Patricia who market their products and services ethically instead of selling false hopes to fellow marketers especially the newbies.

    Kudos to the Lovebirds for coming up with quality products one after the other.

    Cheers,
    Lester

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    patricialin Reply:

    @Lester Lim,

    Thanks a lot too for supporting us one way or another! :)

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  45. martin
    1349 days ago

    Well said Calvin. There are actually many good marketers turning to the dark side just to make money without taking the interest for their subscribers. They are just taking a ride on their subscribers. I received this type of hype almost every other day. It’s sad really.

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  46. Mil Tan
    1349 days ago

    It was the amount of hype-y IM stuff that put me off and made me very hesitant to enter online marketing in the first place. Good thing I have met Calvin & Patricia, which helped to convince me it was possible to do IM without selling one’s soul.

    Too much garbage floating around also makes it harder to spot the valuable ones. I must admit it takes quite a bit of determination to sift, and continue sifting, through the crap but worth the effort when one finds the odd gem here and there! Perhaps when more IMers practise and conduct their business ethically, we can hope to find gems more readily and easily rather than junk!

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  47. Bizniz Hosting
    1349 days ago

    Couldent agre more, It is hard to buy anything today. Whit all this crapp. I bought from you two, becource of fair price. Then whe you overdeliver I bee very happy.

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  48. Shana Jahsinta Walters
    1349 days ago

    Hey Calvin,

    You are really laying it on thick in this video. Good. You really need to tell the truth about what these unscrupulous Internet Marketers like to do. There are a multitude of new people coming online everyday and they need to know this. So that they do not fall for this dumb crap.

    All the best,
    Shana Jahsinta Walters.

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  49. Jack
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    YOU are 100% correct. The reason these “Dirty Birds of Prey” apparently seem so successful is because we, (the newbies-the little people), believe honest money can be made on the Internet, and all we want to achieve is moderate success, to better our present financial situation in these “Hard and Financially Stressful times”.

    They are all to well aware of the “Old but True Cliche”, that “A Sucker is Born Every Minute”, so these “unconscionable bastards” lie through their teeth, pedaling their “Crappy Products” followed by 3 or 4 high priced upsells, and by the time we put all their products to the “True Test of their Sales Copy Bullshit”, they’ve stolen our money(because it’s too late to get a Refund), screwed us out of our hopes and dreams that WE CAN make a modest (or better) income online, and possibly secure a somewhat better future for us and our children…

    I Stand By Your Side Calvin on This Issue 100% My Courageous Friend.
    I only wish I had the “IM-smarts to take them on, then take them OUT…

    Jack

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  50. Terry Jett
    1349 days ago

    Excellent video! I cannot agree enough.

    There are so many people in this industry that will take your money with the blink of a eye and think nothing of it.

    There are also many very good people in this industry and have met a lot of them. Although I have never met you guys face to face, have bought many of your products. Never been disappointed with any of them.

    Thanks,

    Terry

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  51. The Copy Nazi
    1349 days ago

    Dunno about you guys but I’m sticking my neck right out. You seen what I’ve been attacking on The Warrior Forum lately? Google Cash 2, Bring the Fresh, Get fb Ads Free, Stripped for Profit etc. Some of these guys I know. Some I think are just outrageous fraudsters that really should be behind bars. No kidding. Yeah – I’m making myself real popular in the IM world right now. You should see the PMs these assholes send me. You should see how they try and slander me as payback. I could care less. Watch for my upcoming product – my first LOL – where I go rogue and bite the hand that feeds me (sort of). No kidding. I might have to change address after I reveal what these guys are doing.

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  52. Errol
    1349 days ago

    I do agree with Calvin on this truthful issue by exposing these scumbag gurus.

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  53. Carletta
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    I just LOVED that video! I’m new to internet marketing and I see a lot of products coming in my email. I’m having a hard time trying to figure out who to believe! Most of the programs look legit. Now I’m wondering how you know if they are or not? I don’t have money to waste like most people!
    Thanks again and I always look forward to your emails!

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  54. Leonco
    1349 days ago

    I enjoyed your video and approve of the subject. I see more and more of those blind copy promotions and shake my head in disblief at the number of marketers that put greed ahead of value. I am against side sales…and those that think themselves clever by stooping to such devices just to make a quick and easy buck.

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  55. Shane Purcell
    1349 days ago

    Amen Brutha!

    I am new the IM Newbie Superstar to be exact, lol I do not like the hype salescopy and it is sad that this is actually what the people want..sad for us…I hope we can still make the money being ethical, thanks for all your valuable content Calvin and Patricia!

    Shane

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    John Reply:

    @Shane Purcell, Hey Shane you are here too! Couldn’t agree more with Calvin and Patricia. We are on the bright side!!!

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  56. Kevin
    1349 days ago

    The new one out now is the stripper Haley(paid actor)who blackmailed a guru into giving her all his secrets, she then used those secrets to become an overnight Clickbank millionaire at the touch of a button.This story has to be funnier than the old guy who found the secret pushbutton software on a dvd in a bar.There needs to be a scam website setup that newbies can go to, to check out a programs review before they buy it.

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  57. Hello Calvin.

    You are right there is a lot of junk products being sold on the internet and once you buy them your stuck with them.

    Thanks and best wishes.

    Drew.

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  58. Robert
    1349 days ago

    Well said Calvin.

    When I tell people that I am an internet marketer … I get the same look from them as if I said I was involved in a Multi-Level Marketing business like Amway. The distrust is instant. You have verbalized the reason for this reaction. Thank you.

    I actually own two of the three products you have listed in this post and I must say that you do NOT produce garbage. These products have been extremely helpful by getting me to get out of the “Shiny New Thing” rut and get back to working on my business.

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  59. Tony
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin
    I agree about everything you said Calvin and am very glad someone is speaking out about some of this to good to be through promises.
    I have been happy with products I purchased from you that’s why I stay on your mailing list,
    still struggling to make some profit, only myself to blame not working hard enough.
    It is no easy way just hard work and don”t give up it just don’t happen over night.
    Thanks again for standing up and tell the truth.

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  60. Ron
    1349 days ago

    [quote]hope we can still make the money being ethical[/unquote]
    Shane we can make more long term than these assholes because of a lower refund rate and building trust and loyalty from our subscribers, friends and customers. You don’t need everyone on the whole planet to buy from you. Ask Calvin.

    Anyways onto a more ethical approach to making an income online that I am amazed I haven’t been using. Which do you find yourself doing the most.

    1. Creating a product whether hot or not and trying to sell it by setting up JV partners, Affiliates, Facebook, PPC etc etc etc OR…

    2. Market your product and create the need for it.

    If you get it right you will never have to worry about these a$$hole scumbags ever again.

    OH and I put Affiliate Managers and Affiliates into the same pile of Crap as the product vendors for blindly promoting shit that they have no intention of ever using or reviewing.
    You see for them it’s chasing the dollar and not giving a crap about their subscriber.

    I personally have unsubscribed from some very big names for this. And I don’t care to hoots and their sob story on how or why they promoted blindly.

    LOL Time to get of the soap box.

    Keep bringing it on Calvin and Patricia

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  61. Lenhard harlingten
    1349 days ago

    Most of these marketing system are”marketing system”:selling and knowing how to sell, the buyer’s psychology, the trigger points etc while not providing value?

    The products are just excuses for performing the art of SELLING the proverbial fridge to the Eskimo! You hear about “traffic channel” which trap you with low costing bait ($37, $27) by promising the world and then providing you with a higher price piece ($97, $197 , $297) that make everything so much easier and complete than the already complete easy system.

    It is time for real value to be offer and i think if us, the buyer online, become more ruthless about disclosing the garbage provider for the rest to know, we might eventually create a level of integrity needed on this powerful platform that is the net and start recognizing the genuine quality products/services providers that are out there.

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  62. Alessandro Zamboni
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin and Patricia, I’m on marketing by 3 years right now, doing exclusively internet marketing. I had always good results with my sales, especially for one of the first blog flipping product ever released, with the coauthoring of John Yeo, and for other minor projects.

    Sometimes, only on some products, I found that people had no interest at all, also providing the best value, corrected, revised and filled by quality contents.
    I don’t talk the best english of the planet, but I get all my jobs corrected.
    But I saw, especially in the main IM forum, that there is less interest.

    For example I elaborated an e-book to help a friend from Indonesia, about how I generated over 25,000 visitors, and I got no sales at all, making the fool of myself…
    This is my objective point of view referred to my situation.
    I think that my problem is coming from sales letters, because all the people that read my jobs are all happy and very responsive on my list.

    Thanks for all and see you soon!
    Alessandro “The Misunderstood Marketer” Zamboni :)

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  63. Hiram Goicochea
    1349 days ago

    Three Cheers for HONESTY. I have been a victim of theses shams and this years I have had he guts to requests refunds for products that do not live up to the hype. I was not aware of the high refund rate and this is an eye opener. I have found a few honest internet marketers and I am proud to know you and be on YOUR LIST. It is easy to purchase from you only because I KNOW you will not steer me wrong. Thanks for a breath of fresh air and I am ready to clean up this industry.
    Hiram G. Wealth

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  64. Chad Carlton
    1349 days ago

    Thanks for this Awesome much needed post!

    It’s so nice to know that you are one of the good guy’s and gal’s (patricialin;-)

    Thanks so much for sharing this and providing the link to Jason Fladlien’s post on how to identify a potential junk product with blind copy. Hopefully the tables will turn and people will only buy the good stuff but it seems that hype and empty promises sell better.

    What is the best way I can do my part to help being that I’m still a nobody in the world of IM? Let me know and I’ll do my part to help spread the word!

    Keep up the great work and developing awesome products (I have almost all of them;-)!

    Chad!;-)

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  65. TPJaveton
    1349 days ago

    Calvin,

    You make a very compelling case for buying (software products) smart on the Internet and I commend you for doing so. If I can be convinced that I will get a superior product from you and your partner(s) at a fair price you get yourself a customer, but the burden is on you to deliver.

    Having said that mouthful, I’m going to take a look at your product, IM Rich Mastery, and see how I can use it to create/improve revenue. If it works I will have found a new place to do my software shopping and if it doesn’t because it’s the same old crappy products that you so eloquently railed against, I’ll be sure to let you know about that too. Great video!

    Thanks.

    TPJaveton-

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  66. Lou
    1349 days ago

    I agree with what you said in your video. I have opted out of everyone of the magic wand blind copy IM lists. enough is enough. It’s all worse that pure junk.

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  67. Lou
    1349 days ago

    Oh yea and one more thing to look out for. Even if you pay with paypal or a credit card on clickbank, you can still get burnt. Cause these bums don’t have enough $$ in their accounts to cover a refund. It happened to me, so I quit buying anything from CB.
    Investigate before buying. And don’t believe the article and forum sites, cause they post all kinds of great reviews on these sites themselves. Just don’t buy these magic wand stuff.

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    Stephen Reply:

    @Lou,

    LOL! Now that *is* ironically funny! Screenshot after screenshot of their CB accounts showing how much money they’re piling up, and they can’t cover a $37 refund. ROFLMAO!

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  68. Tim R Walls
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    You’re still on my list… Stay honest…stay on my list… That has become my new mantra in IM. In the last several months, I’ve unsubscribed from more than 50 names you’d immediately recognize. I used to shine it on… Now it’s…lie to me and screw me over once…you’ll never do it to me, again. You’ll stay blacklisted for the rest of my life… For awhile I let it anger me, now I just “get even.” The only thing any of us have control over is to take the time when we unsubscribe to give those on the “dark side” a piece of our minds. I will echo whoever said “scumbags” and add my own description… “two-legged, upright, methane-puffing, mostly bags of shit.”

    Tim

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    Stephen Reply:

    @Tim R Walls,

    You and I share a mantra:

    Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on ME!

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  69. Tony Clingan
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin

    Good to see you posting this, what are your thoughts on the facts that 99.9% of these products are being sold on Clickbank, Clickbank must know what these people are doing by the massive refund rates and yet they allow them to keep doing it, are they really the main problem by taking a take the money and run attitude

    Thanks for sharing Tony

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  70. meegan
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin and Patricia

    Thanks for sticking around and not taking to the hills.:)) Yes it was all too evident what was happening during the last year or so, which was a terrible learning curve for most of us struggling marketers starting out, and yes Jason,(I popped over for a quick gander)) it was our own fault..
    Greed is its own worst enemy and it is very difficult to regain a reputation, once lost..so hat’s off to you both for having good ethics and creating great content….(loads of it))
    meegan

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  71. Quincy
    1349 days ago

    How about each time one of us sees a blind copy pitch, we comment either on the product comments page or Warrior Forum and other IM Forums as follows:

    “This product’s sales pitch has been noted by IM-ABC (Internet Marketers Against Blind Copy) to be of dubious quality & potentially misleading, in our opinion. In recent times, the internet marketing industry has been inundated with deceptive advertising and low quality products. While we are NOT accusing the seller of this product with these tactics, we do respectfully request that the seller provide honest, accurate and complete information regarding what this product is and does, rather than what it is not and does not do. In doing that we believe you will help increase the integrity of our industry, and help it to obtain a high level of respectability. This, we believe in the long run will benefit us all. Thank you.”

    Cut and paste this to a notepad file, then simply post it each time you see one of those blind copy pitches. I we do this “en masse” then those unscrupulous sellers will eventually be rooted out and will have to change or leave the IM industry altogether.

    What do you think about my idea?

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  72. Nando
    1349 days ago

    Wow,

    To think, if all that junk being produced in the IM niche is having an adverse effect on your ability to make sales, how much more so for your affiliates.

    This epidemic of low quality inferior product creation not only affects the IM niche but it’s tentacles reach into other areas of Affiliate marketing in general.

    I’m glad to hear that you’ve taken a stand because I’ve been monitoring your success and have bought some of the products you’ve put out and it’s really good stuff.

    Don’t quit, because you stand to gain a lot more in the way of profits and JV partners in the future due to the fact that your customers and others who may not be your customers yet share your feelings about this issue.

    It’s because of all the B.S. in the IM niche that’s been going on lately that I personally don’t do adswaps or share my contacts in any way.

    A few more subscribers and sales are not worth the long term negative effects that come from pushing junk products. I’d rather not be “guilty by association”.

    To your continued success,
    Nando

    P.S. You’re IM Riches Mastery product is a breath of fresh air and highly recommended.

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  73. Joseph
    1349 days ago

    Hi Calvin and Patricia,

    It is about time someone brings this subject matter to the forefront.
    I am sick and tired of seeing these junk scam products in my inbox,
    and from well known internet marketers whose lists I am on.

    Boy, How I would like to mention names but I know that it is not a
    good business practice to do so, but that’s OK, we all know who they
    are.

    These guys are going to destroy themselves, I can’t believe that they
    enter into a JV without at least checking out as to what it is that
    they are promoting.

    I can spot these scams from the headline of their sales copy and what’s
    with the fetish with all of these products costing 37.00, is that amount
    suppose to have a subliminal affect on people.

    It is scams like these that caused me to start promoting outside of the
    internet marketing niche and because of this post on your stand against
    the scammers, I will reconsider my departure.

    Joseph

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  74. Giakling
    1349 days ago

    Couldn’t agree with you more. I have also bought a couple of these so-called 1-click “loophole exploiting” software and found out that they were just junk. What was shameful is that some of these were promoted by well known GURUs!!!

    Anyway, I have learned my lessons well and will not fall for such SCAM and Too-Good-To-Be-True software/program in future. Remember, if it looks or sounds “Too Good to be True”, just hit the CLOSE button on your browser.

    I have bought your IM Riches Mastery through WSO and found it to be value for money.

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  75. Harry
    1349 days ago

    Great video, keep up the good work. Some one is telling it like it is

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  76. Val Flint
    1349 days ago

    Thank-you for taking this stand. They are absolutely MY thoughts as well. I have actually stopped reading certain marketers’ promotions, because I was tired of seeing the same kind of sites being produced one after the other & having to ask for refunds.

    I applaud your honesty & integrity!

    Val

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  77. Robin Lee
    1349 days ago

    Thank you Calvin (& Patricia),
    The scam artists give us all a bad name and leave a bad taste in the mouth. Appreciate the candor and honesty and thank you for standing in integrity.
    Robin

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  78. PVC Blinds
    1349 days ago

    Thanks Calvin for coming in and exposing the trash products being touted around for sale from some IM marketers. As they are complete junk and some marketers expect you to buy for the sake of buying them.

    Its a welcome for someone in authority in the IM world to come out and expose the garbage being sold. Thanks for your honesty and integrity.

    William

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  79. MRR Products
    1349 days ago

    Cheers Calvin,
    Exposing these nonsense software new products is pure honesty.
    There are too many IM’s just wanting to make a quick buck and no matter how they do it.
    Most of the softwrae blind tools are just rehashed ones with a makeover of new covers etc.

    I will stay on your list for your honesty but i have trashed most of the IM’s now i used to subscribe to due to them just wanting to sell me anything and everything.

    Len

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  80. Mike
    1349 days ago

    I basically stopped promoting IM products a year ago. I wont mention the guys name, but he is really well known, anyway I jved and promoted his new “breakthrough” product to my small list of 800 or so. It had taken me 6 months to build that list. A list I was trying to gain respect from. The promos were good and I did get a pre-launch look at the product. It was ok. But his entire promotion was about what we could get out of the buyer and nothing to do with how much value or real information they were receiving. I realised just how much I had prostituted myself to the industry. I apologised to my list, withdrew any support for the product and the marketer, and have never promoted an IM product since. In fact I don’t even contact that list and soley promote physical products now. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not even making enough to give up my day job yet, but I sleep perfectly evey night and am proud to say I haven’t crossed to “the dark side”.

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  81. Mil Tan
    1348 days ago

    HOT topic indeed!

    Reassuring to know that there are many who feel strongly against such IM tactics.

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  82. Screen Capture
    1348 days ago

    This is a email I’ve sent the people behind all lists I follow. I urge you to send a similar email to the people running the lists you’re on. It’s about time to stop all the monkey business that goes on. You and I are the ones being ripped off over and over again.

    “Hi ….,

    I have the highest of respect for you as a marketer …., thanks for not ruining your reputation. There’s a new movement against all the crap products being launched today:
    http://www.imlovebirds.com/why-i-almost-quit-internet-marketing-last-year/

    All the very best,
    Pat”

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  83. TPJaveton
    1348 days ago

    Hey Calvin,

    I’m a firm believer that actions speak louder than words such that when anybody makes a statement of intent, I hear the words, but the actions must follow to support those words otherwise the words mean nothing (they’re empty) and the person who uttered them cannot be relied upon and is therefore untrustworthy.

    Why am I making this statement? Because I am now a buying customer (the price was reasonable enough) and will take a close look at the product as it measures up to your presentation before I get back with any comments. That being said, take care and be well. Thanks.

    TPJaveton

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  84. Lester Lim
    1348 days ago

    This post has attracted a lot of attention and rants from a lot of people. Seems like there are far more people crying for justice than a lot of us can imagine. Let’s all stand firm against crap products and support only quality ones. Don’t buy into blind sales copies anymore!

    Cheers,
    Lester

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  85. Claire
    1348 days ago

    It’s so good to hear someone come out and say it as it is, and alert people to all the BS products out there. Well done guy :o )

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  86. Free Traffic Formula
    1348 days ago

    Right on!

    One of the biggest things I’ve done is unsubscribe from marketers who continue to try to sell me or refer me to these cra**y products.

    One might ask – does this form of sales page marketing work?

    Yes and NO! Yes in that they get people to buy and no meaning this will not build their business. You see, after someone buys their junk then finds out what the product really is about, there goes another refund.

    Funny how they all boast and show screenshots about massive sales and income, but they purposely fail to show is how much refund and complaints they get.

    I personally promoted one these products as an affiliate for one the top marketers out there and you’ll be amazed at how poor their customer service is that people started contacting me via my blog to get help. Shame shame!

    Yes, I learned my lesson and vowed that I will not promote someone without further investigating or have personally used/bought their products first. Hint hint…

    No wonder there success is so short lived.

    Paul

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  87. Biekia taoyu
    1348 days ago

    Impressive! Spoken like a true pro. Let us stop buying crappy products by questionable “guru”.

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  88. Zak Omar
    1348 days ago

    Hi Calvin,

    I could not agree more on your post. I similarly observed during the past year these look-alike product launches that came into the market one after another in quick succession and wondered whether there was some sort of collusion among the vendors. And almost every time when you hit the back or exit button you would be presented with a pop-up window that offered you a discount. Sometime they may offer you double discount! That was really laughable!

    I do wonder what is ClickBank’s role in this. Don’t they vet through the products being offered through their marketplace? And to discover that some well known IMers also promoted these junk products into your mailbox!

    All the best.

    Zak

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  89. Kanute Fleming
    1348 days ago

    I’m a subscriber to many internet “guru’s” newletters, and when there is a launch of the newest “internet marketing wonder” promising thousands of dollars or thousands of new subscribers or a tsunami of traffic instantly, emails from those “gurus” pop into my mailbox, with the same promotional message. It seems that most of these “top internet marketers” don’t care about the quality of the products they are promoting if only they can make profit.

    When you have been into this business for a while you can “separate the wheat from the chaff” and avoid the crappy products. However, there will always be newbies that fall into this unethical trap, so this spammy kind of marketing isn’t likely to stop very soon.

    I’m glad you speak out though, Calvin!

    Kanute

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  90. gio
    1348 days ago

    I am glad I have found some true marketers. I have spend soo much money the last 2 years on these products but I finally have found some marketers which I trust. I am only buying products from these guys right now because I know they use them AND testdrive these products. I would like to mention Matt Carter and themarketingassassinsdotcom as valuable marketers too. I will add you too as a true marketer since I bought your mothersday WSO which I found good quality for money. Respect!

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  91. lerosh
    1348 days ago

    thankx kalvin and co,,,nice to hear bonafide marketers,,,have followed you for a long time,,and will continue to do just that,,rgds

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  92. Sergio
    1347 days ago

    Calvin I take my hat off to you for telling everyone how it is.

    I can tell you that when I started to consider getting into this industry last year I have been ripped off a few times from these so called “Gurus”. Let’s not mention any names as I think we all know who they are.

    Yes I have considered quitting but because of people like you and Patricia I am hanging out there, and it is great to hear that there is still someone you cant trust in this industry.

    I wonder if Click bank should review their selling guidelines, especially the ” One Push Button Software” products that without lifting a finger are supposed to generate $400.000 dollars a month!

    I mean does Click bank and these so called Gurus think we have all gone stupid?
    My advice to everyone is as following: Before you purchase any marketing product online always check the Warriors Forum review.

    If you receive an email about the product and the sales page or message talks about a college dropout that mysteriously invented a software that generates thousands of dollars without lifting a finger, or describes the “proven” evidence backed from countless copies of fake PayPal or Click bank deposit statements with a huge deposit balance sheet my advice is keep away from it and delete that email ASAP as all of the above ring alarm bells everywhere.

    Also before you buy anything check if there are any up sells, as most of the “miracle” software products that sell for only $37 may end up costing about $3-$400 more if you get sucked in while you purchase online.

    Calving and Patricia you are the best, keep doing what you have been doing and I don’t think you will be never out of business.
    A successful business is based on trust and good quality products, because lets face it, if you sell crap your customers will not come back, therefore affecting you bottom line.

    Talk soon

    Sergio

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  93. Casey Brown
    1346 days ago

    I agree, I am sick to death of receiving the hyped up product launches with no real information about the actual product. I have started removing myself from the mailing lists of those promoting these products because I feel let down & betrayed by them. I have to thank you for being one of the few IM marketers I feel are trustworthy. When you come out with a product or promote a product you are honest & reveal exactly what a buyer will be getting. That is why I have continued to stay on your mailing list and always look forward to the products you produce. Please continue with your ethical marketing & I guarantee you I will be a fan of yours for life. Thank you!!!

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  94. Glenn
    1346 days ago

    I am one of you affiliate marketers and I am glad to here this from you and I to have been trying these products to see if they work or not and I have turn the juke back to clickbank
    I’m starting a new project with a WP plug-in sometimes you can’t even go by the reviews because they are done by the same company. So many scammer not enough good people in this world. Good Luck from the good side.

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